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first_img 2 Comments   Share   Top Stories “Dynamic in every area, particularly on the offensive side of the ball,” Wilks said of the week’s task. “It’s just about eliminating the big plays.”Defensively, the Cardinals hope that doing so in the passing game will be possible with safety Tre Boston, who has been out with rib and shoulder injuries since an Oct. 14 loss to the Minnesota Vikings.“Today I went out, hit the sleds, you know, just trying to show them I’m ready to go if they say I’m ready to go,” Boston said Monday. “It’s really just a fight between me and them. Too often in our minds as athletes, we want to come back early … Right now we’re fighting that thin line of being a competitor and being smart and helping my team out for the long-run.”The Cardinals, Wilks said, believe there’s a chance they can give the Chiefs their best shot with a completely healthy roster.Adding depth over the break was the challenge.That was one reason why Arizona released former starting quarterback Sam Bradford over the weekend, eating the rest of the veteran’s $15 million contract.“… from the standpoint of need, position-wise throughout the year, particularly this time with guys getting hurt, we did what we thought was best for the team,” Wilks said Monday. “We needed that position to be able to add quality depth to different positions on the team.” TEMPE, Ariz. — It was nice to enter the bye week at the midway point of the season coming off a win.It was nice the Arizona Cardinals saw their rookie quarterback lead a fourth-quarter comeback with his new offensive coordinator, Byron Leftwich, debuting at the controls following Mike McCoy’s firing.It was nice the week off let some injured Cardinals heal.But reality hits hard and fast out of the break, and Monday Arizona regrouped to begin preparations to face the 8-1 Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday.Related LinksArizona Cardinals re-sign wide receiver Kendall WrightThe Arizona Cardinals release quarterback Sam BradfordDeclaration Day on Doug & Wolf: Is Josh Rosen a franchise quarterback? Former Cardinals kicker Phil Dawson retires The 5: Takeaways from the Coyotes’ introduction of Alex Meruelo Arizona also moved offensive lineman John Wetzel (neck) to the injured reserved list.One of the two open roster spots was filled Monday when the Cardinals re-signed veteran receiver Kendall Wright. The other was filled by Zack Golditch from the Indianapolis Colts practice squad.As for the notable injured players, the same push-and-pull between Cardinals training staff and player is happening with right guard Justin Pugh, who has missed a month since suffering a hand injury. He’s failed to bring enough to the table with his hand wrapped since then.“If I can’t use my hand, if I can’t use my fingers to grab and hold on, I become a liability out there,” Pugh said, adding he believes he is close to finding a way to play.Concerns about the depth deepen after Arizona lost Wetzel, the Swiss Army Knife for an injury-plagued offensive line over the past few years. He was put on the injured reserve for the rest of the year due to a neck injury that Pugh said the backup played through before the bye week.Arizona enters Week 10 still looking for offensive line stability. Only left tackle D.J. Humphries and rookie Mason Cole having played every game so far.“That’s the NFL though. There’s a-hundred-percent chance of injury in the NFL,” Pugh said.center_img (AP Photo/Ralph Freso, File) Grace expects Greinke trade to have emotional impact Derrick Hall satisfied with D-backs’ buying and selling BOSTON READY FOR PARENTHOODTre Boston announced on social media on Sunday that he is expecting his first child.And in speaking about the news, he revealed a fun fact about himself as a baby.“It’s my first so everybody just pray for health on my baby, because I can imagine how freakish it’s going to come out,” he said. “I was walking at six months. Just letting y’all know. Momma took me to the doctors, doctor said, ‘Nothing wrong with your baby. It’s just a freak.’ It’s been history every since.” CREDIT TO BRADFORDWilks spoke for the first time since Bradford’s release on Saturday and said he had a say in the decision to release the quarterback, who since a Week 3 loss to the Seahawks didn’t start, didn’t play and wasn’t on the active roster come gametime.“Sam is the ultimate pro, the way he handled the situation,” Wilks said. “When I made the decision to move forward with (starting quarterback Josh Rosen), he didn’t waiver in his commitment to the team. He still came in here and worked hard each and every day, and he did everything he could to help mentor this room — and I commend him for that.”LEFTWICH ADDING MOREWhen the Cardinals turned to Leftwich with one game before the bye week, they took advantage of allowing the promoted quarterbacks coach to use a long week — Arizona fired McCoy after a Thursday game against Denver — to prepare his players for his play-calling.A full two weeks after that has allowed even more changes to be implemented, Wilks admitted without giving away any hints about how Arizona’s offense will attack the Chiefs.“You can see Byron trying to evolve and move this offense in another direction,” Wilks said.last_img read more

July 24

Young people cant change US gun law alone – but they could

first_imgOpinion Report Young people can’t change US gun law alone – but they could tip the balance 73 74 Facebook tessla Don’t waste your time on gun laws or any other laws for that matter. Instead, socialize the meme.Take a page out of the MADD playbook (Mothers against drunk drivers) and socializing the meme that drinking and driving is not cool … Make it,”guns are uncool”Gun laws are not enforceable, detract from the process and give undeserved power to politicians and media. Fri 23 Feb 2018 12.24 EST Let’s hope it’s a generational thing. …the desire to own a gun could disappear over 2 or 3 generations. And the logistics of destroying so many guns and ammo is a sizable business opportunity. In a situation lile that, he would be the first to run screaming shoving everyone else out of his way. Wasn’t he also filmed repairing himself under an umbrella, leaving his wife and son in the wind and rain? It’s a small gesture but very telling about his character. Facebook Share via Email Facebook Comments 561 Kudos to these kids. I hope they are old enough to vote next November. In May 1963 a white police officer in Birmingham, Alabama, tried to scare some black children as they went to protest against segregation. As fellow policemen turned hoses and dogs on black youngsters nearby, the kids made it plain they knew what they were doing and continued marching towards the demonstrations. A reporter asked one of them her age. “Six,” she said, as she climbed into the paddy wagon.Events in Birmingham proved a crucial turning point in the civil rights era. Before protests started, only 4% of Americans regarded the struggle for racial equality as the country’s most pressing issue; after Birmingham, it was more than half. | Pick Twitter Reply Facebook canyoudoso defragmentation Facebook petefromcornwall 24 Feb 2018 3:36 Share 24 Feb 2018 3:34 Facebook These young people are future voters, with the power to change things that worries NRA and pro gun politicians. 24 Feb 2018 4:38 Share on Facebook Share vulgarius MaltKelp Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:29 expanded Play Video Twitter Facebook Twitter Opinion Parkland, Florida school shooting Share Report Share comment Report canyoudoso Share on Twitter corneilius Share on Twitter Share on WhatsApp Facebook 6 7 Ummm….. Google Clinton Administration Assault Weapons Ban then. You may want to correct your statement. 3 4 Report oldest Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:23 Twitter Play Video 11 12 Report | Pick Marcos Perez corneilius 24 Feb 2018 3:49 Facebook Report Share Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 4:02 next Gun control wont make any difference if the authorities ignore reported concerns. I don’t think we know the story of Las Vegas yet, so I can’t comment on that, but it doesn’t look like the gun control laws would have stopped him since he had a clean sheet? There is no realistic prospect of taking guns out of circulation. Prohibition didn’t stop alcohol, and it hasn’t stopped drugs. Mental health issues, depression and education, joined up responses from responsible agencies, and yes, securing weapons from unstable people. MTavernier Unfortunately the poor sods haven’t got a chance. The USA really has become a strange place—an imbecile for a President who also seems to be emotionally disconnected and he is backed by a vast a mount of the electorate. What can you do? As for arming Teachers—it’s so insane I have trouble processing it. What if a Teacher has a psychotic episode? Tell you what–let’s arm the kids. 50 Thank goodness for all those young people challenging the gun raddled status quo of an administration that is hog-tied to the NRA, and a president that owes his presidency to the votes of the NRA.But as this piece points out now that the young have taken the ball and started to run with it there has to be follow through, others who catch the ball and take it further. Not just the young but the not so young, and the old timers, the political activists and lobbyists, the writers, the academics, the big fish with high profiles who could lead on this – Bill Gates??There are many others. Let the floodgates start to open. The NRA are powerful but with enough behind a wave of protest it could prove to be even more powerfulAt some point it has to happen, people in the US will one day see one too many mass shootings, let’s hope its now before the next one occurs, and the one after that, etc., etc. It is mad. But it is not a new idiocy and it is not Trump’s idea. I read an article about a year ago about the states that do it, I think it was 7. Facebook Facebook | Pick Twitter Share | Pick Reply Twitter 28 29 24 Feb 2018 3:17 Report Bible in one hand, snake in the other, gun held in tail…. the image of an American in Guardian. Like the Medieval Bestiary pictures of the dreaded Anthropophagi that people would stare at in amazement. 24 Feb 2018 4:48 Share Fred_Angel 10 11 ID6889528 Report | Pick Twitter 24 Feb 2018 4:54 Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp Show 7 more replies Reply Trump singled out that guard and bashed him, because that guard makes a mockery of Trump’s plan to put guns in schools. Trump’s strategy is to send pistol-armed teachers into battle against maniacs armed with military assault rifles. Guns in schools are the problem, not the solution. Reply | Pick Twitter Facebook | Pick Twitter thebigego Report 2 Share on Facebook 4 There have always been spree killers and school shootings. An unemployed teacher named Heinz Schmidt entered St. Mary’s Catholic School in Bremen. He had a briefcase packed with six to ten pistols, and 1000 rounds. He killed five girls and wounded more than 20 other people in the school. Later that same year, the teacher Ernst August Wagner killed his wife and four children, then drove to a village in south-west Germany where he set several fires and shot 20 people, of whom at least nine died. He had two Mauser C96 pistols, and fired 80 rounds. Both of these examples were in 1913. There will always be attacks. However, it has has been shown around the world that is possible to lessen the number of attacks and death toll by blocking access to firearms. Fred_Angel 24 Feb 2018 3:37 Glimps_Holme Share on Facebook Treflesg Reply It is not just the fact of their opposition but the tone that is thrilling. “Calling BS” on the political class and the NRA, facing down senators and lobbyists, they have acted independently of both political parties and a mostly white, middle-aged, suburban-led gun control movement that has little connection with the communities most acutely affected by gun violence.This is fantastic, as far as it goes, but on its own it doesn’t go far enough. History has shown that young people and students have the ability to expose a crisis and challenge it, but rarely defeat or solve it unilaterally. They are more likely to be the spark for the broader struggles than the flame itself. The systemic threat youth and students pose is one of contagion – that their energy and commitment will infect others with more leverage, who may join them.Of the victory against segregation in Birmingham, the historian Taylor Branch wrote: “Never before was a country transformed, arguably redeemed, by the active moral witness of schoolchildren.” That may have been the first time. Let’s hope it is not the last.• Gary Younge is a Guardian columnist and the author of Another Day in the Death of America Report Report Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:22 42 43 Share Good point. I don’t think anyone under the age of 18 has ever had a political view until dastardly CNN gave those kids questions to read out loud…Oh hang on a minute, what am I saying! That’s bullshit. Those kids have been through a tragedy and have enough courage, intelligence and humanity within themselves to call for meaningful change to prevent others suffering what they have. So instead of calling out CNN, how about facing into the issue the raise and considering how no other country on the planet experiences mass school shootings at the same frequency America does.Guns aren’t all of the issue but no one needs a military grade automatic weapon to go hunting or (in the worst case scenaio) take a pot shot at an armed intruder on their property. 24 Feb 2018 4:02 Twitter Share on Facebook 100 Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:40 Twitter Share Fred_Angel wutheringshite Share Share Report Reminds me again how frequent mass shootings in schools were in Britain prior to Dunblane? Could it be that the new and putative gun laws we introduced were a massive overreaction? Another headline grabber for the Politicians, but fundamentally a bad law, a bit like the dangerous dogs act? Reply Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Too embedded in their culture and only worsened by the internet and the post-truth turn the country has taken. Share on Twitter Facebook Share | Pick Report Report 24 Feb 2018 3:39 Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:44 Twitter Agreed. And some high profile Americans. A new #metoo Reply Report Share on Facebook … ID1584725 Reply Reply Fred_Angel 43 44 Politicising kids by CNN after that trauma is pretty disgusting.Even for Liberals. 24 Feb 2018 3:25 Share on Facebook Twitter Share Report Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:16 Twitter defragmentation Treflesg ID6889528 1 2 memeroots 217 218 Share Reply | Pick Share on Facebook | Pick Report Share | Pick 106 107 24 Feb 2018 5:03 Share MaltKelp 75 76 Facebook Facebook Share 24 Feb 2018 4:41 Report Share Twitter Facebook Share on Twitter vulgarius 43 44 24 Feb 2018 3:14 There was a shooting at a school which cost lots of young lives. I think that’s why there’s an ‘obsession’ with America at the moment. Share on Facebook Marcos Perez 64 65 Share on Facebook Reply Katherine Cross Twitter sblejo Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter FuriousKale Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Facebook Report Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Facebook No chance. Report 24 Feb 2018 3:36 Twitter Reply 29 30 Share on Twitter | Pick vulgarius | Pick Share on Twitter Biggest military power in the world run by an idiot supported by cretins who think that gun ownership is more important than children’s lives——-I wonder why people are concerned? | Pick Report Twitter | Pick Share on Twitter ‘But even I would expect an armed policeman put on duty to guard a school to actually respond with his gun if an armed attack happened at that school.’ Only in America. Report 17 18 | Pick Share Share Twitter Reply Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Glimps_Holme Didn’t take long for the NRA slugs to come oozing out. 24 Feb 2018 3:20 24 Feb 2018 3:49 ID1584725 Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:12 This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Twitter Reply Read more Reply 9 10 Report corneilius 96% of USA firearms deaths come from pistols and shotguns, not rifles and in lower socioeconomic areas with predominantly black or Hispanic victims. That’s the tragedy that the media and public don’t focus on. Share on Facebook Share on Facebook ID1584725 defragmentation Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Twitter Share Glimps_Holme Share Share on Facebook Show 1 more reply Facebook Share on Twitter Why this obsession with Americans and their guns – there are conflicts in the rest of the world that are far more worthy of our attention. Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Facebook 19 20 American children are being executed in their classrooms by assailants using military-grade weapons. How is that abomination possible outside of a war zone? It was simple to disarm Britain after the Dunblane and Hungerford massacres, because there isn’t a gun culture in the UK. It has been 22 years since the last school shooting. In Britain, we don’t need to arm teachers or turn schools into fortresses. It must be obvious to most Americans that they’ve taken a wrong turn. America has lost its way. A mentally unstable teacher with a gun, in a locked classroom? Surely, it makes sense to arm the children so they can fire back and take him down! Share on Twitter If we don’t trade with USA, we cannot trade with Russia, Switzerland, China, all of the Middle East, Africa and South America etc. Venezuela is right out 😉 Twitter | Pick Share canyoudoso Reply Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:29 24 Feb 2018 3:39 24 Feb 2018 3:30 10 11 Sometimes action speaks louder than words. March 1990: Poll tax riot in London. November 1990: Thatcher ousted, swiftly followed by scrapping of the Poll tax. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”Please good Americans. Do something. Reply Share Share on Twitter MTavernier Twitter Report Share 24 Feb 2018 4:52 24 Feb 2018 3:39 Share on Facebook Report | Pick Share on Facebook 3 Read more Reply Twitter Report 26 27 Share on Facebook tiojo The USA really is a strange place. But then what can you expect from somewhere that’s run by heavily armed religious fanatics? Support The Guardian Share Facebook unthreaded Twitter 343 344 Loading comments… Trouble loading? Tim Jensen Share on Twitter Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:57 17 18 The US is run by heavily armed religious fanatics? Thank goodness that only happens in Guardianland. Reply ParadisePostponed Share on Facebook 9 10 Twitter Twitter Twitter 4 Share on Facebook Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:07 17 18 Share on Facebook | Pick Reply Abra Cadabra Fred_Angel 2:04 Twitter Share I am not a gun type at all.But even I would expect an armed policeman put on duty to guard a school to actually respond with his gun if an armed attack happened at that school.Would that mean that he was under high risk of being hurt or killed? Yes.But that is the job of armed police in there situations, if they don’t step in, who does? Fred_Angel Blatant bribery is the reason guns like the AR-15 are available to anyone with enough money and the small ego to have one. These weapons represent ‘don’t get mad, get even’ and masculinity in a sick way. My father was a member of the NRA 50 years ago, if he were alive today he would not be. In those days the idea of having a gun like the AR-15 would have been considered nuts, in his words. I know males with grenades and entire vaults full of vicious weapons, they think they are very important with all that artillery. Male egos are the reason these guns are available and the NRA leader is just one more small tiny eensy weentsly little bitty man whose ego is pathetically attached to guns. Before these guns were out there, this kind of mayhem did not happen. As far as teachers packing heat, I suspect they will resign before taking on such an ugly image, also something most of us would not be able to do, pull a gun and shoot someone. What is the matter with this country? Share on Twitter Good article. These young people are fantastic, they really seem to be keeping the conversation going. It really is bloody obvious that, even if America won’t give up guns entirely, they should at least be able to get rid of these ridiculous military-grade things that are really not needed for shooting pests on farms. 41 42 2 Reply Share Share on Twitter Share | Pick The ‘voices of the children (or youth)’ has been used time and time again by dictators and such to claim legitimacy and righteousness. Gadaffi did it, so did Mao. Report Share on Facebook Share on Pinterest CaptainGrey vulgarius Reply Show 5 more replies Share on Twitter Report 23 24 | Pick Reply Donald Trump: give teachers who carry guns a bonus – video Topics Show 2 more replies 24 Feb 2018 3:54 Gary Younge John Favre Reply Treflesg Contact author Facebook How many have been members of the NRA? Shouting insults won’t change minds it will embed them. Mass peace protest should be a match against mass murder. Every school child should walk to their town hall and demand gun control before they go back to school. That would fix it. Twitter | Pick Report Report Reply Twitter 10 11 24 Feb 2018 3:10 Reply memeroots Reply Report Share 24 Feb 2018 3:50 davshev | Pick And the problem is? It leaves much of the world that we still can and I would rather trade with countries with morals, so very glad Saudi and China, to name but two, are off limits. Facebook John Favre Share on Messenger Share on Twitter Budanevey Share on Facebook Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:27 | Pick ID1584725 Reply Share on Twitter | Pick Share | Pick Share on Twitter 4 5 Read more Twitter Reply Share on Facebook Share Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Facebook 58 59 And while the young can at times make an impact on the streets, they are among the least likely to vote, – if indeed they are even eligible to vote – and cannot withdraw their labour to any devastating effect. There is a limit to what they can achieve alone. In the days after the shooting, Emma González, 17, who was at the school when the shooting happened, emerged as an impressive, articulate champion for gun control, saying: “We are going to be the last mass shooting.” There have been four since their school attack, and at the rate things are going this year the United States is due another school shooting before the end of the month.But at a moment like this, far more problematic than overstating the impact of young people’s protest is underestimating it. If there is one unifying element in the nature of youth and student protest over the past 50 years, it has been the likelihood of it finding its greatest potency precisely when established political structures have shown themselves to be obsolete – structures young people feel neither beholden to nor indebted to. Share Share norman1967 Share on Twitter | Pick Share Share on Facebook BlueDanubeWalz 110 111 An ‘assault weapon’ is just technical term – now used to broadcast hysteria – for any rifle that takes an intermediate cartridge and has certain furniture such as detachable mag and a pistol grip. 37 38 sblejo TiomanIsland 24 Feb 2018 3:22 Twitter 5 6 Share on Facebook Reply | Pick | Pick Twitter | Pick Twitter Reply | Pick wutheringshite Florida shooting: students walk out of schools to call for gun control – video Treflesg 25 CaptainGrey Share on Twitter So the American president who dodged the draft 5 times with sore feet has just called somone a coward? Well let’s face it, he would know a lot about cowardice wouldn’t he? You would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh. FuriousKale Share on Facebook | Pick Share on Facebook Share on LinkedIn The Supreme Court has ruled on what can constitute ‘arms’ under the Second Amendment and it doesn’t include crew served weapons such as artillery. Reply 4 5 Budanevey Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:15 Share on Facebook Share Facebook | Pick Reminds me again how frequent mass shootings in schools were in Britain prior to Dunblane? Share on Facebook Budanevey Report stamfordman Reply Twitter Share Reply 28 29 Share on Facebook Facebook Report Share Reply Report And young people were crucial to its success. That was no accident. Adult breadwinners had too much to lose, and the campaign was faltering, so Martin Luther King’s organisation trained young people to carry the mantle. Soon they were filling the city’s prison cells. “There were 12 people in [my] jail cell,” Dennis Mallory, who was a teenager in town at the time, told me. “And 11 were from my school.”The political courage and leadership of the young people in Florida who took on the gun lobby this week stands in the storied, inspiring tradition of youth activism in America and beyond. Whether it was Paris, Mexico or Brazil in 1968, Soweto in 1976, the intifada of the late 80s, Seattle in the 90s, the Prague spring of 1968 or the Arab spring of 2011, the young have often led resistance against injustice or for progressive change – and sometimes both.In Florida the familiar cycle of carnage, thoughts, prayers, rage and stasis has been broken by an impassioned and uncompromising demand for gun control triggered by the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school, where 17 people were shot dead last week. There have been die-ins outside the White House and school walkouts around the country: they have grilled (and, frankly, toasted) their Republican senator and a spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association (NRA), and lobbied the state legislature. 133 134 24 Feb 2018 4:22 24 Feb 2018 3:16 Email (optional) Share Facebook Report | Pick Share on Twitter Reply Report CaptainGrey Twitter The Las Vegas killer hadn’t been flagged up at all. You’re blustering about maturity and self-examination in order to deflect from the elephant in the room. It is too easy for Americans to get hands on weapons that can enable a single person to shoot almost 500 people in the space of 10 minutes. Facebook Share on Facebook But González was 12 when Sandy Hook happened. She and her fellow students have not learned to be hopeless. Nobody can tell them to lobby through the proper channels, because there are no working channels. So they have gone for the source. The tone of urgency, rage, hope and mocking disbelief in their resistance is one of the things that has been missing from this debate. America’s rate of gun death – seven children and teens a day, as well as around 80 adults – is an obscenity the nation has become accustomed to. Share on Facebook Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:22 | Pick MTavernier 11 12 Reply Twitter Share on Facebook 19 20 9 10 Reply Share | Pick MTavernier 44 45 Facebook Facebook Sadly Mr Younge is far too optimistic. The latest shooting victims, like all before them, are collateral damage in the fight to keep the second amendment. 24 Feb 2018 3:31 Share on Twitter Thanks to big money, gerrymandering and spinelessness, each mass shooting is received in a mood of learned hopelessness 4 5 Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:22 Treflesg Share on Facebook Share 24 Feb 2018 3:09 Report Share Share on Facebook 4 5 Share 24 Feb 2018 3:48 Order by oldest Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share 24 Feb 2018 3:45 Twitter Report 63 64 Twitter 296 297 Report Reply Facebook newest Facebook 400 401 | Pick tessla When liberals see young people challenging authority in this way, they can start to wax romantic. Youth can be fetishised as though it holds intrinsically radical properties. It doesn’t. It is not an abstract identity. Youth interacts with class, race, gender, nationality, region and a range of other factors in different ways at different times. During the 1926 general strike in Britain, students were used as scab labour. Young people, aged 18 to 24, voted for Margaret Thatcher in 1979 and 1983, and Ronald Reagan in 1984. The under-35s in India went for the Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi. Young white people backed Donald Trump. Share on Twitter | Pick 24 Feb 2018 3:32 24 Feb 2018 3:42 Donald Trump | Pick Facebook 49 50 stamfordman Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Report Share With a bit of luck some well-respected figures, perhaps also some bereaved parents will stand against the elected stooges of the NRA | Pick CaptainGrey Report Reply Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other From the civil rights movement to the Florida schoolchildren’s protest, youthful energy has proved a powerful force collapsed What do you mean by military grade? | Pick Facebook 6 7 | Pick | Pick Report Reply Report Facebook Share Report | Pick You see more and more because the ban was lifted by George. 24 Feb 2018 3:10 Share on Twitter This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. 24 Feb 2018 3:21 Share Share on Facebook Share Report 4 5 24 Feb 2018 3:23 Twitter Share Twitter Twitter petefromcornwall Treflesg Share on Twitter Reply Twitter 211 212 Facebook Twitter 85 86 19 20 Report Reply Share Share on Facebook 1 Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Report Report 24 Feb 2018 3:41 Facebook Show 5 more replies Treflesg corneilius Share Facebook | Pick I think Peterson’s reaction was reasonable. Nobody goes into a situation where they have a handgun against someone (or someones) in possession of semi-auto weapons. They’ll just die. You’ll notice whenever this kind of thing happens, there’s always big response – SWAT teams with bullet-proof vests and big guns, and lots of them. Peterson is just the end result of massive stupidity in this country. Cruz should never had access to that weaponry. That’s where the problem started. Facebook Share Share on Twitter Twitter CozyPajamas 24 Feb 2018 3:24 3 4 Report Reply 24 Feb 2018 3:25 Sadly yes. The final act of the American dream. Arm the teachers. Yippee ki-yay Boyles law, Catcher in the Rye and Pearl Harbooooooor. World is fed up with them. Look at Trump now trying to mix it with North Korea. 92 93 60 61 Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter stamfordman Facebook Reply Twitter NRA Reply 24 Feb 2018 3:32 Share Facebook That’s what these young potential game changers need to focus on and not be diverted by other vested interest types into viewing the issue as a white/people of colour, young/oldies thing. 3 Facebook Facebook Share on Facebook The 2nd amendment was done with no idea the types of weapons in this country today would be available. Using it as an excuse for war-time artillery is a ruse; no one is saying take ALL WEAPONS, by any means, but the NRA is great at creating the lies. Report wellywearer2 Reuse this content,View all comments > Report 133 134 Share on Twitter Twitter Twitter Young people can challenge orthodoxy with a fresh earnestness without coming across as malevolent or contrarian. The fact that many Americans are also for tighter gun control means that this won’t be seen as youthful naivety or disrespect for the constitution. I wish the young across America every success with their protest against the great American gun fetish. I’ve read quite a lot of articles on this subject, and none of them have mentioned that the person responsible for these killings had been flagged up to authorities on 39 occasions. That’s clearly an editorial disposition by the writers of those articles, a pattern of omission intended to make incidents like Florida a political opportunity to blame America’s 2nd Amendment. Instead of uniting Americans around a mature self-examination of the issues, this partisan treatment will divide Americans. Shares680680 Guns and lies in America: sign up for email updates 58 59 Threads collapsed Facebook | Pick Reply I think to uphold the 2nd Amendment every US-Citizen should be given the weapons the founding fathers envisioned. 1 Kentucky long rifle flintlock of course and also a Ketland brass barreled smoothbore flintlock pistol. Try a shooting spree with those. tiojo 4 5 Report Report 24 Feb 2018 3:15 | Pick 5 6 corneilius Reply Report Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:44 Report Share on Twitter | Pick Report MaltKelp Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:40 Share on Twitter … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. 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Every reader contribution, big or small, is so valuable. Support The Guardian from as little as $1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you. Share on Twitter Ummm….. I don’t doubt that many politicians and most presidents in the USA have changed the rules after the tragedies that happened on their watch. But not one of them has done enough to actually reduce the problem let alone solve it have they?Whatever rules Clinton may have brought in, did tragedies go away? Reduce? All I can see is more and more of them. There are few better illustrations of this than guns in the US. A consistent majority favours stricter gun laws, and support for background checks is almost unanimous. Yet thanks to a combination of big money, gerrymandering and political spinelessness, each mass shooting is received in a mood of learned hopelessness. Citing Sandy Hook, people understandably insist that if nothing changed when the kids were younger, and the president cried and called for action, then nothing ever will change.When reporting for my book about all the children and teens shot dead in one random day in America, I asked each family an open-ended question: what did they think had made the tragedy possible? Not one mentioned guns. When I asked the more leading question, of what they thought about guns, most had an opinion: they were too easily accessible. After a while, I concluded that they looked on gun deaths as being a bit like traffic fatalities. If your child was run over by a car, you might call for a traffic light, speed bump or lower speed limit – and no one would claim that was unconstitutional. But you wouldn’t call for an end to traffic. Who could imagine a world without traffic? To these parents, that would be as bizarre as a world without guns. Treflesg beadmaker ID6889528 68 69 Facebook Share on Facebook Reply davshev | Pick Reply Facebook 24 Feb 2018 4:34 Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment Reason (optional) Facebook I don’t understand a single word mucker. US gun control ID331660 Share on Twitter Share | Pick 30 31 Share on Facebook Twitter | Pick Meet the British CEO of the firm behind the gun that brought tragedy to Florida Young people Share Another favorite NRA tactic – get into an excruciatingly pedantic OH THAT’S NOT AN ASSAULT WEAPON line of argument – in an attempt to deflect. 17 people died 9 days ago, so deflect this. Share on Twitter Report ProbablyOnTopic It’s a given that Trump is a lunatic why does the UK want anything to do with the US? Presumably trade (=money) but some of us put morals higher, not a condition that troubles Trump or UK tories. 24 Feb 2018 3:16 Twitter I keep hearing or reading that Trump is not doing anything about guns or doing the wrong thing.Which seems a rather short sighted view of the issue.Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump and every democratic and republican governor and all the elected politicians right across the USA for the last thirty years have sat and watched tragedy after tragedy. ALL of them have to do something. Share on Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook 2:02 Facebook Report Reply Share 24 Feb 2018 3:27 Share on Twitter 24 Feb 2018 3:29 Twitter It’s really depressing to read how “campus cop” Scot Peterson is being criticised because he didn’t tackle Nickolas Cruz “Rambo” style. The infantile belief that all Peterson had to do was come out shooting like Bruce Willis in a Die Hard movie is expected from Trump (who after all dodge the draft to Vietnam) – but Peterson’s own boss, the local sheriff, apparently thinks Peterson, armed with a handgun, should have confronted Cruz, armed with a semi-automatic. It beggars belief. Share on Facebook Looking for wisdom in youth is like looking for affection from your pet rock. All they are doing is social media and bouncing virtue signals off each other, like a tornado in a ping-pong (table tennis) ball factory. – watch the Breaking Bad episode where the planes crash, and the student assembly meets to discuss it, – Gary, why not have those kids make aircraft safety law? Surely they would be perfect for that policy roll? 38 39 MTavernier Report Report 76 77 recommendations 24 Feb 2018 3:18 Reply Share on Twitter Facebook Show 20 more replies Reply Facebook Reply raffine All 19 20 Agreed. And some high profile Americans. A new #metoo Facebook Share on Twitter Twitter eileanmor Report Report 15 16 Share on Facebook Report Share on Facebook Reply Share Report Treflesg | Pick Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Facebook if they don’t step in, who does? No, Mr Trump, video games do not cause mass shootings Since you’re here… A consistent majority favours stricter gun laws, and support for background checks is almost unanimous. 24 Feb 2018 3:49 | Pick BabylonianSheDevil03 @garyyounge Facebook Facebook Report Show 5 more replies Reply rvaucbns | Pick Facebook | Pick Share on Twitter defragmentation Share on Facebook Facebook Twitter Reply Report This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Share on Twitter rvaucbns Share on Facebook 26 27 | Pick Yes. Its people like Trump and Dubya, who keep well out of harms way while others do the fighting and dying,( usually young men from poor backgrounds, who are asked to defend what so often kicks them in the teeth during peace time ). And when little rich boy becomes President, he is so often aggressive and militaristic to the point of lunacy. Because he doesn’t understand fear, suffering, courage or cowardice. Daddy saw to it that he didn’t have to. Share Treflesg Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick The first step is to classify the gun nut pressure group an international terrorist organisation. sblejo Dan Hunt In polls since 2013 most Americans of all backgrounds support more gun controls and half of Americans want to control them fully. The question is why the politicians are behind the curve? Background checks for all gun sales, not just those sold in stores, are supported by 85 percent of respondents, Pew’s poll found. Laws meant to stop mentally ill people from buying guns have support from 79 percent, while 70 percent support a federal database tracking gun sales. A fourth proposal — banning assault-style firearms — is supported by a majority of Americans (57 percent), but the margin is slimmer.The opinions found in the Pew poll weren’t just something that cropped up after the Charleston shooting, though. Support for these proposals is remarkably similar to the feelings expressed in January 2013 in a poll taken shortly after a gunman killed 26 people, most of them young children, at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. Report Marcos Perez Twitter | Pick Twitter Share on Facebook Report Share on Twitter | Pick Reply 24 Feb 2018 3:35 FuriousKale rvaucbns Twitter 24 Feb 2018 4:00 | Pick Share on Twitter David L Preston Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook Reply | Pick … Share on Facebook Share on Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:31 Tim Jensen ProbablyOnTopic 203 204 Share Share on Facebook Show 2 more replies Share Facebook Again, you’re reiterating the same NRA talking points that are being used to deflect from the primary issue. Mentally ill people exist everywhere. A lack of adequate mental health care exists in many Western countries. But in the USA you have sane and insane people committing gross acts of gun violence. It is perfectly possible to make semi-automatic rifles, bump stocks and large magazines illegal, end the private-sale loophole and enforce much stricter background checks on those who buy guns. Virtually the entire Western world is capable of effective gun regulation. The only thing stopping the USA doing the same is the gun lobby, craven politicians and the mindless fanaticism of the political right. Share Budanevey 123 124 MaltKelp Twitter Reply Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook Facebook 24 Feb 2018 3:33 comments (561)Sign in or create your Guardian account to join the discussion. Report | Pick wutheringshite Share on Twitter Share Twitter Share 24 Feb 2018 3:41 Reply insomniac66 Share on Twitter | Pick Share Reply rvaucbns 97 98 Share on Twitter Share Reply Share on Facebook sblejo Show 25 As long as there are men with small penises, the desire for guns will remain. Twitter US gun control Share Glimps_Holme Share I didn’t know that—it doesn’t make me feel any better. Trump is clearly pushing on an open door already. Facebook | Pick Reply | Pick littlebillykershaw Reply Yes, it’s a great idea to disarm the public. 99.99% of whom would never shoot someone unless they had to in self defense. And allow the criminals to tool up on the black market. They’d think Christmas had come! next ParadisePostponed Share via Email 55 56 Twitter You seem to forget how many ‘law abiding’ tooled up civilians seem to murder unarmed people on the pretext that they were under threat. Remember Trayvon Martin who was killed by a big man who was told by the police not to approach the boy but nonetheless followed and shot him RIP Trayvon 24 Feb 2018 4:13 Share Last modified on Wed 5 Jun 2019 04.15 EDT Reply Twitter Twitter Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Twitter FuriousKale Reply 1 | Pick I have a chant for them: Hey, Hey, NRAHow many kids did you kill today? (with appologies to the Vietnam war protestors) | Pick Fred_Angel 24 Feb 2018 3:59 ID6889528 Close report comment form Share on Twitter Reply Illustration by R Fresson It was simple to disarm Britain after the Dunblane and Hungerford massacres, because there isn’t a gun culture in the UK. It has been 22 years since the last school shooting. 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